[Spellyans] Goat

[Daniel Prohaska]

Michael wrote:

“Why is Dan following George's gaver pl gever (with -ar in the sing.)? And what is the explanation for "gyffres" given "gifras" and  "geffraz"? (Certainly there is no need for two f's.)”

 

I’m not giving gavar, but gaver, you cited it yourself. This is attested in MC. In Lhuyd the -ar means schwa + r. This can be shown as gaver as well. From the SWF’s rule to give the etymological vowel the discussion is irrelevant anyway because it’s an epenthetic vowel anyway, cf. W gafr. Nicholas Boson and Andrew Boorde give gever as the plural which seems to be cognate to W geifr. Gyffras is the plural found in TH, with <ff>. Should we simplify <ff> to <f> if it’s not attested, I wonder? Could it mean /ˈgivrəs/?

Dan

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Everson
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 4:40 PM

 

Dan's dictionary has:

gaver, pl gever, gyffres

 

Nance gives:

gavar, pl gever, gyfras

 

Nicholas gives:

gavar, pl. gyfras

 

Gendall gives:

gavar, pl. gever, geffraz

 

Why is Dan following George's gaver pl gever (with -ar in the sing.)?  

And what is the explanation for "gyffres" given "gifras" and  

"geffraz"? (Certainly there is no need for two f's.)

 

Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

 

 

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