[Spellyans] SWF questionable wordforms
Jon Mills
j.mills at email.com
Wed Sep 17 10:27:04 IST 2008
By analogy with 'tavas', I think that 'dewas' would be better than
'dewes'. There seems to be a set of words that end '-as' in the singular
and '-osow' in the plural:Ordinalia: davas; taves
Sacrament an Altar: tavas
Bodewryd MS: tavas, tavosaw tongue, tongues Pascon agan Arluth: beghas,
peghes
Ordinalia: begh; feghas; fehas; peg; peghosow; pehes; pehosow
Ton, Rad. (1504): pehas; fehas; pegh; fehosou
Jordan (1611): fehosowe So we should write:'dewas', 'dewosow','tavas',
'tavosow','peghas', 'peghosow'. In the case of 'dyskas', we have no
plural attested.Pascon agan Arluth: dyskas
Ordinalia: deskes; dyskes; thescas; thyskes; tyskesHowever, one might
posit a plural, '*descosow'.
Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Chubb"
To: "Standard Cornish discussion list"
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF questionable wordforms
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:30:28 +0100
It has to be said. The use of 'dewes' would fit logically with using
"taves" not 'tavas'.
These words need to be looked together, and while we are at it; is
there any evidence for 'dyskes' instead of 'dyscas'?
All these words make their plurals with 'os'.
On 17 Gwn 2008, at 08:44, Jon Mills wrote:
Pascon agan Arluth: dewas, zewas
Ordinalia: dewes; dywes
Ton, Rad. (1504): dewes; deues; dewosou
Boorde (1555): dewasWe should write 'dewes'.Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Climo"
To: "'Standard Cornish discussion list'"
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF questionable wordforms
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 19:34:17 +0100
...--------------------------SWF: diwes (n.), drink We have
discussed this word here before and I remain sceptical that
this is correctly reconstructed. If the Cornish word form
were a direct cognate to Welsh diod and Breton died, we would
expect Cornish *dies. This does not occur. We have deuaz
(Lh), dewes (WB). I should suggest, at least as a variant,
SWF *dewes.
[Andrew Climo] Completely agree - diwes seems to me
incorrectly constructed and (by analogy with god, two and
black) I would have expected this sound to have followed suit
to the sound [u:], hence the spelling dewes. [Andrew
Climo] Also strongly support the dyski ~ deski and similar
variants ...
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