[Spellyans] SWF questionable wordforms
Jon Mills
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Thu Sep 11 10:13:12 IST 2008
There are some Late Cornish forms which begin 'Kern-': 'Kernowak',
'Kernooak', 'Kernowak'. However, in Late Cornish we also find 'Carnoack',
'Cornoack', 'Kornooack' and 'Curnooack'. Jon
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From: "nicholas williams"
To: "Standard Cornish discussion list"
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF questionable wordforms
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:23:32 +0100
To write Cornowok would lose the connection with Kernow. It would
also introduce into thewritten language a suffix -ok, which is -ek,
-ak elsewhere, e.g. Frenkek, Godhalek, Zouznak, Sousenack.According
to Gendall Gwavas writes Kernowak (among other forms).
Nicholas
On 11 Sep 2008, at 08:57, Jon Mills wrote:
Both *Kernewek and *Kernowek are unattested and merely
conjectural reconstructions. Morton Nance's 'Kernewek' is derived
from Robert Williams's Lexicon s.v. Cernewek, which Williams, in
turn derived from the Welsh. What is wrong with writing the
attested form 'Cornowok'?Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "nicholas williams"
To: "Standard Cornish discussion list"
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF questionable wordforms
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:00:10 +0100
What you say may be true, but the expected form is *Kernewek
< *Kornowika with i-affection of the ow > ew.
Nicholas
On 10 Sep 2008, at 17:41, Daniel Prohaska wrote:
No, I don’t think this is the case. Notice that Lhuyd
gives the pronunciation kloüaz and toula with <ou> and
not with <û>. He gives Kernûak, which means it goes with
the words with original <ow>, like lowen and Jowan. Hence
Kernowek is the correct word form and it cannot e assumed
that *Kernewek was ever correct for any time period, even
before the shift from ew to ow.Dan
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From: nicholas williams
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 4:44 PM
Surely Kernowek (Cornowok 1572) is a development of
*Kernowek by the rule stressed ew > ow in disyllables and
polysyllables; cf. clowes, towlel, etc.This development
appears early in written Cornish, cf. Ihesus crist leun a
bete a leueris zen dowzek PA 49a. Nicholas On 9 Sep
2008, at 09:46, Michael Everson wrote:
and Breton Kerneveg, but a new formation based on Kernow
+ -ek. It seems the consistent SWF spelling ought to be
Kernowek with an earlier pronunciation [kEr”nOUwEk] and a
later [k at r”nu:@k]
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